Why do we collect things ,all types of things. The reason is obvious isn't it?
Retired law enforcement, officer security, expert and award winning storyteller. Paul Merrick, along with his cohost, Jesse Clay, former Navy seal, and four time heavyweight committee, world champion together. We'll discuss the broad array of current events using their unique backgrounds to further dissect each story. The only question you have to ask yourself is, are you ready to roll? I don't know, but I've been told that these two guys are really old. I hear their views are very bold, but they believe the truth will hold. So sit right back and enjoy the show because these two guys are ready to roll sound off wound to sound off three, four sound off long two, three, four. Let's roll. Hey, Jessie, you ready to roll? Let's roll, buddy. What? That C on your shirt anyway, what's part MMA, full contact fight team. You know those guys. Okay. Yeah. So Jesse and I have been talking welcome back everybody. And, uh, actually got a little worn out, talking about. Everything that everybody else seems to. Yeah. Over and over it's old and nobody ever. Yeah. So we're talking about things that are fun. And while we were discussing what we might want to talk about this time, we thought the idea came up about collections. Things that people collect, especially things that maybe certain military individuals and law enforcement people collect, uh, maybe two extremes. So. While we're on this. If you have something that you have a collection of that you want to share with us, you can always get ahold of us. As you know, are you ready to [email protected]? Uh, it might be fun to talk about the way this conversation got going was I was telling Jessie, I said, you know, sometimes it's crazy the things that we do collect, like what cops are famous for. And I am no different is. I literally still to this day in my office, I have a box of holsters that fit just one gun, a box. Because when I was working with this, this is going to probably work better. I'll buy this one or I'll buy that one and you use it like one time and you put it in the box and you forget about it. Some of these things are like 30, 35 years old, literally spent hundreds, actually thousands of dollars on, you know, leather or now, you know, synthetics. For an item that probably costs 500 bucks and never used 99% of them. So I'm curious what a seals collect. Let's start with the most important thing, a good knife. Good knives are hard to come by and once that keep their edge. So if you look to talk to guys from the nom era or talk to guys from the, uh, From the current year or guys from the beginning, you know, you went from like a K bar to a dive knife to, uh, more of the Vietnam guy, a good full in blade, but fix the edge is the best for whatever you're planning on using it just because of strength or, um, yeah, because a folder, you know, it doesn't have the same tensile strength. Okay. I'm not going to get into what to do with them. I teach it as weapons classes, you know, and, uh, I've talked to and seen and done stuff all over the world with people who have actually used, uh, an edge weapon in combat. Uh, there are no winners. Everybody gets caught. If you talk to a guy and says, Hey, I've got eczema, confirmed kills with a knife and there's not a cut on them. You know, the only thing he was killing was a chicken or a Turkey. That's about it. Um, yeah, there, the characteristics for, I mean, with all the knowledge that's been gathered over the years for, I mean, modern day combat knife and from military, you use let's stay out of it. Well, let's get, let's get real. First of all, is. Guys now don't use a knife, an edge weapon, as much as they used to, like during a world war one, world war two, you know, use of a bayonet, um, a very, very important tool back in the revolutionary war, the civil war, um, it kinda, people kinda got away from it, right? Because firearms got better. Firearm improved. Yeah. So shoot somebody or stab somebody shoot him. Right. You know, it takes, it takes a little less skill and a lot less effort, you know, and not to mention the fact that you don't know if you're going to get hurt, you know, but it's like when I was over in Israel doing stuff, uh, with the IDK, um, uh, IDF. It was, um, it was very interesting, their perspective. And then working with guys in Africa, um, there is forces there, their whole view on using the knife, you know, and then you watch all these movies, you know, it's like, it was that crocodile Dundee. That's not a nice mate. This is a nice yeah. Monster boy tonight, while we look at the ultimate. Edge weapon, uh, participants for the samurai and, you know, that's, their weapons were razor sharp all the time. It's kind of hard to carry us a samurai sword running through the jungles of Vietnam or Korea or wherever else they were stationed. But a good fixed blade was pretty much the topic. I'm not going to say which branch it was, but I was doing a teaching class. And a guy's never pulled there, never used the night's weapon. Um, they never didn't really know how to fight with them because they don't train that way anymore. Right. You know, it was kind of a, it's more emphasis on it. You don't use it. You'll lose it. Yeah. So, you know, it's, it's an interesting, you know, everything you should know how to use every tool in your toolbox. Are you familiar with, and somewhat rhetorical here, but with the samurai sword, because I do remember reading. Um, a couple of stories, uh, sometime back about, uh, correct me. Cause I'm going to say it, my media Contano is that right? Is that like, yeah, there's a Katana Tonto, couple of different cut through like arrows of rifles and things like that. They were so strong. Is that true? I know they could cut through people cause that's how they tested them. They either have cadavers. Yeah. They either hung cadavers and cut through cadavers, or you had people on death row and they cut them and that's how they trusted the weapon. That's how you knew how good a blade was by how effectively it cut through somebody. Okay. So I guess that's pretty inaccurate. Yeah. So in combat though, who you're not cutting through barrels? No, you're cutting through folks, you know, and the easier it is to cut and then it comes down to not force, but technique. Right. It's all technique. You know, the stronger you are is a great thing. The more perfect your technique makes you invincible. That's true in so many things, isn't it? Yeah. But now having said that if, if we're a hundred yards away and you're running at me with a knife and I've, I've got a fully automatic weapon. Your chances of survival are pretty slim. That's a joke I told you, right? Chances of survival are pretty slim. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. So, so evolution just basically because of technology. Yeah. That's basically all it is. And you know, we went, we went from a phase and war, war, war, world war II, where we spent a lot more time training people, how to fight hand to hand because they were fighting in the trenches, right. There were, you know, fighting, they ran out of bullets. They use their hands now today's, today's combatants. Don't get the same amount of, uh, of hand-to-hand training. They're they're better with, uh, GPS. They're better with Collin and airstrikes are better using a laser. Right. Um, you know, they're better. I don't hold a lot of new technology and have lost. The skillset of some of the older technology. But if you look at the world as a whole, we don't, um, we we're continually trying to advance. We're trying to make warfare less personal. So, you know, just drop a bomb, send a drone, whatever. Right. You know, but warfare's something and my full belief that is, if it's not personal, It'll become like a video game and you see the problems we're having with that. Yeah. We were having a lot of problems with that and I think a little bit of humanity's lost when we forget exactly what's going on. I think that's where you're headed with that. Yeah. When you, when you see somebody pass before your eyes or because of an action, you've done it, it changes you, it changes you forever. So that's what, that's what a lot of people don't realize. You can drop a bomb from, you know, And I hate saying this, but, um, actually I don't, this is source of fact, if I'm in an airplane and I drop a bomb, I don't see the carnage that causes, I don't see any of the, any of the devastation. Right. I, I get an after action report and I see through my cameras if it had to target, but I'm not actually at the ground. You don't, you don't, you can't taste. What, what it's like to have somebody die and you be there. You can't feel what it's like. You can't hear the sounds and you can't feel the emotion because you you're, you're not part of it. You know, you drop a bomb, you fly home, you have a cup of tea, it's towing, you're on the ground to disconnect it. So it's a different, different ballgame. And now they're looking at, what do you think the effects of something like that are going to be, I mean, over time, obviously when you could, when you were there right in front of the other, your combatant or whatever, there were effects for that, obviously psychological effect PTSD. Right. But now it's yes. But now you have where, like you said, because of technology that doesn't happen, but that's still, there's still gotta be an effect there that might be even more dangerous because you don't realize. I mean, what's really happening. Maybe it's like, yeah, I'm sure there's reality, right? I mean, yeah. Well you look at, what's the one guy in Arizona, they were fighting all the sorties with, with drones in the middle East. They're flying in from Arizona, right? They're in an air conditioned room was a joystick dropping bombs. And then I guess one of the guys decided he wanted to go see exactly what was happening and what came back and killed himself. He couldn't deal with it. You know what he was doing, you know, and there's all kinds of countless movies, more fair. It's not fun. What, you know, who, whoever tells you warfare is a good time is definitely got a definitely twisted, um, sense of reality or they've never been involved or absolutely never been involved. So let me ask you this, uh, you brought up like collect knives and. For what purpose personally? Like, is it like the history of it? It reminds you of something, is it because the, the craftsmens ship around it? I mean, why, why do you collect those? Well, why do you collect posters? Because I always thought the next one was going to be better. Mostly wrong. A lot of money down the drain. No, you know, with nice, a lot of the knives now, and I hate to say this, but I have an, uh, a buddy of mine, uh, an old seal team guy who was a Vietnam vet. He has a nice place for us to display him. And anytime I want to see my knives, I just drive up into the mountains of his house. Right. And we'll sit there and it's good for me to see him. Right. You know, he does, he's not really a, he's the kind of guy he lives like 10 miles off the beaten path. And if you don't know, um, how to get to his house, you would never find it. And if you were to find it and didn't tell him you were coming, you probably wouldn't tell anybody else where, so, okay. So yeah, unless I get, unless, you know, at ease kind of a curmudgeon. Right, but he's a great guy. He's just had a lot of things go on in his life. He doesn't want to deal with, he just either, you know, he, when he wants to see people, he comes out of the Hills, right. Or I call him and say, Hey, let's go to a knife, weapons class, or we'll, you know, we'll do something else. Or, you know, some of the fun things that we do fun sickos because. No, he was in combat with me in several different, right. You know, we, we both understand what what's going on and what the reality is, but it's mostly to, uh, you know, some blades cut better in different hand positions. Some, you know, our last, our, uh, our lacerated, uh, or cerated and, uh, mandate. Cut. Great. I mean, nothing's nothing's is worse than going hunting with us. And then we get an animal and then it's like, Oh, well try this one. You know, most people open up a backpack and they have four or five knives. Right. You open up a backpack with either one of us. It could be 20, 30 knives in there just to say, Oh, I wonder what this will do. I wonder how this will work. You know, I wonder, Hey, remember this, remember that? So, I mean, it's a good thing and a bad thing, but it's for a. I think we've lost the way of the warrior, I guess. I think we lost the way of the warrior and we don't really connect anymore with who we are as a people and thinking though, With everything that's gone on the last year or so with everybody being away from each other, that's probably even gotten worse, not just combat, but just in general people not being right next, right in front of each other. We do have something it's not in combat, but just in general, we're we're social animals. And I, I, I have my fears about if this goes on much longer, you know, especially with the young people who are yeah. Earning their social skills and it was bad enough with just being on the phone all the time. And now that's all they have. Yeah. So what are, where are we driving our kids to? But then again, it comes to situation. What do we do? Do we, do we say, you know what it filed? She's wrong. CDC is wrong. This guy's wrong. That guy's wrong. Take the mask off and we'll all get sick. Right. Well, not all of us have a hundred thousand dollars to get medication, right. Or get to the protocol, the treatment, um, to, to heal or from this situation. Then again, if you want to have a better success, a chance for survival, get in shape, stop eating, processed foods, um, you know, Yeah, there's one of the main different things. Oh, and, and, and this disease, like a lot of viruses too. It's not a, it's not clear cut, um, how it affects every individual. Obviously we know that the better shape you're in, um, you know, less stress or whatever, you're probably gonna do better overall, but it's weird because I mean, A lot of us, we know for a fact that we've come in contact with and maybe even already had it. And the effects were, you know, and you and I are not like spring chickens or anything, but it wasn't that big of a deal yet you get somebody to be half our age. And even know if they have, you know, like outside, uh, uh, excuse me, like health issues or anything like that, it does affect them. So it's a, it's a weird, but viruses are like that, you know, it's, it's kind of a crap shoot sometimes. So yeah. You never know how many people die from the flu. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, you know, it's no matter how you look at it, 220,000 Americans. Yeah. Right, right. So what's, what's the solution. Well, you know, do we need to believe in science don't believe in science, you know, everybody's got their conspiracy theory. Is this a political thing? Is it, is it really happening? Well, folks are dying all over the world and it's not really a, you know, it's why didn't we do that PB though, Jesse cause more five or six times that a year of TB, we don't do. We don't take the same actions they're doing over this virus. So you see what I'm saying? It's only a million people die. Yeah, they do. And the United States. Yeah. Well, the United States in the world, how many have died in the United States? How many of them night of the virus in the world? According to the CDC, if we want to believe him, because we don't know who to believe anymore. They say 2 million. That's where they say we're at right now, but over a million in 0.6. Yeah. A 1.6 or something die of TB every year. And we don't do anything about that. And that's a D and that's it. What do you call that venereal disease? Or even more, even more. So what are we going, what are we going to do? Well, that's the thing that this balancing act between, you know, living your life. And then my thing still is I think to a certain extent, if this was obviously not a doctor, obviously not going to always have the right idea about everything, but if this was as deadly, as they said, it probably would have died off a lot sooner because the people that was infecting would have died, this thing is. Appears. So to be weakening to a certain extent, and that's why more people are being affected. That's what a virus does. It is in order to survive, it has to infect the host. Right. And when it does that, in order to, in order to survive, it becomes more infectious. But in doing so, it usually weekends that's what viruses do. Didn't they say that about polio. They have a vaccine for polio and polio is thing. Yeah, because people aren't getting the vaccines. Right. Or you don't get a vaccine. Right. But you can't, you can't think about polio is you can't do, uh, what appears that Sweden did with the reheats this term, like herd, immunity, whatever. But you can't do that with polio because the effects are much greater than it has been with Kobe. Yeah. I really don't know the answer because I'm not a doctor. So until the doctors figure out what's going on. What are you going to do? And you know what? I had dinner with a doctor the other night, really, really smart lady. And it's you're right, because you can put literally 10 doctors in a room and they sound like 10 economists because they all have 10 different ideas about what's going on. I guess my thing is there comes a point where you have to, it's a balancing act like, and I think there's a certain. Rule of thumb that goes with, you know, if you are in that category that you have to be concerned with certain things, then it's, it's your choice and your right to decide whether or not you want to go outside. You want to do this or that, but it shouldn't be that way forever everybody, because we, we can't operate. Even if it, even if it was the worst thing in the world, we can't operate the way we're operating right now. Very much longer without having complete economic collapse and social economic collapse, because they're not acting correct. And they're getting you're saying is people need to buy it and go out and buy more holsters. Only if it fits the knife since the gun, you're not gonna really get bullets because there's not enough commerce going on. We can't get parts for anything and we're going to get the bullets. Oh man, trust me. We'll figure it out. See, this is why people just start reloading. That's a whole generation loss with that. I mean, I remember when I was in high school, junior high. Now I'm going to go to junior high, but high school, I had all my path, my buddies reloaded, cause they all had old weapons. Right. It was like, Hey, you know, where can we find bullets for this? I'll just make them right. I mean, no window waits were safe because guys would go to the, you know, pick up bled from wherever, no weights and an old houses. We're easing them out, down to make great books. And then you find out about all the poisons that you're breathing, poison gas. When you wearing a mask, when you were doing that. Well, of course I wasn't. But then again, how led vaporizes inside the tissue of whatever animal you kill? Yeah. So it's like, Hmm. So yeah. You know, and, and, uh, I'm a little over 50, 60 maybe. And, uh, we're not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying we're seasoned well, seasoned, well seasoned, but, uh, yeah. You know, kids eat stuff off dirt and I was hurting now. It's Oh my God. Don't let little Johnny eat dirt. Why not? I'm going to kill him. Do you have, when you rode your bike around. How many helmets? Yeah. Uh, Ooh. That's rough. No, no, not the motorcycle. When you were a kid, you had a bicycle. How many helmets did you have? I had, uh, elbow pads. Okay. A couple pads and gloves because you had a fall. Yeah. Uh huh. No, no, because one of my, one of my neighbors fell and he cut his elbow wide open. It did something to his hand and my mother said, that's it. You're going to wear. Sure. And you're going to wear the, uh, the elbow pads. So that's what we were ready to get hit in the head. Just, no, not at all. And why, you know why one time mother was in a hospital? Yeah. That's how it goes. She saw more injuries were right. What you were covering up. So yeah. Makes sense. You get hit in the head. You're going to die. You don't worry about it. I'm not worried about that until I started riding a motorcycle. I better. Never catch you with a, without a helmet on Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. When did you start? Cause you collect those too. Oh yeah. That's a whole nother story. Uh, Oh geez. I had my first dirt bike when I was 12. 13. Yeah. Yeah. My next door neighbor had his father was a big time dirt bike racer and he was cool guy and he goes, come to the track and my dad said, yeah. And he goes, have you ever been on a dirt bike before? I said, no. So it was a one 25 pull the clutch and he said, he's kicking. It got started. I kept hitting the throttle and then he goes, well, just let go. And nobody told me about shifting, Oh my God, I have the same story. Keep going, keep going. I have the same story. I didn't, uh, I didn't really know a lot of things about it, except for what fastened it looked cool. And then, uh, I had to get off. I didn't want to let go, cause I didn't want to hurt the bike. Right. And sort of started going down, down the track and started leaning back on the bike. Figured if I put more weight on the rear tire, it would, uh, it will slow the bite down necessarily true. They got the front end off the ground. So good thing for me is when I hit the, the barricade at the end, right? The, the front tire was doing a wheelie. Oh my God. And it kind of bounced me in my side of my head at the tank. The bike fell down. I fell down, you know, when I woke up, I looked see, and I could see the tire spinning around and the handlebar still caught in the, uh, Caught up in the fence. Fencing. Were you wearing your heads? No. No, nor my gloves. Oh boy. And, uh, yeah, if I hadn't hit the tank, um, I probably would have flown over the handlebars. Oh my gosh. So I was kind of one of those things. So, you know, my brother yeah. Babies, Steve. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe he takes me out with his buddy. One day we went down to, uh, uh, doggone, not Calabasas, uh, anyway, this park that he used to race their bikes a lot. And the thing about Steve though, so he can rebuild anything, you know, I was never good at that. Then didn't understand the engine thing at all or whatever. So got up with his, uh, but, and like, And Steve was really into this. I mean, his, one of his favorite guys in the world is like, Roger, DeCoster you know, all these. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's I think they had him on Facebook. He, he really did. Yeah. Understands the sport. He did a lot, you know, he broke a few things doing it, but yeah, it was, he was anyway, he takes man one day, come on, come on. You know what? I'll take you out. We'll go for a ride. Same thing gets me on the bike. I really don't know what's going on. He says, this is how you shift into first gear. And then just go and then go from there. Never told me I should keep shifting. Right. So I kept it in first gear and I'm rolling rock at the st. Too bad. This ain't too bad until the thing blew up. Oh no, who's buddy's bike or something pain and help them re luckily he can rebuild anything and everything. He's just look at me. Why didn't you shift? I said, you never told me. You never told me how to shift. Like, I don't know how many RPM after a while that little two stroke engine just went, it was out. It was a one 25. Yeah, no. So that was my first experience with that. And. Then after becoming a cop, you know how I feel about the bikes because there's too many people, no matter what to do, right. You can get hurt. So anyway, well, it was had an interesting statistic on the other day about how many people absolutely actually take a motorcycle class. Not many, not it's it was, the numbers were, were frightening. Right. You know, so it's like one it's one out of a hundred. I think the guys was a quote, one out of a hundred folks who ride motorcycles actually take a class. And then the state of Colorado, I'm not even sure how many licensed right. Legally licensed writers. There are. Cause a lot of guys start out riding dirt bikes and carry their dirt bike habits onto the street. Right. Well, you're on a machine that was 10 times as much. You stick your leg out, dude. It's a done deal. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. I mean, it's a lot of them, so, and the nurture and everything else. I don't know. But, uh, yeah, from going to that, yeah. I teach them I'm more like a safety instructor. Interesting. No, no, no. I only to certain people, no, I don't. I don't, I don't have the patience anymore for, well, well, I've been doing this my whole life. No, you just know how it works or shut up. Yes. People. I teach the folks I want to teach outside of that. And then I do the, I do the vintage motorcycle racing for the guys up at Steamboat where I'll get one or two clients and then come into town and take my class and we'll go through cornering it's various, you know how to use, 'em use your brake front brake, rear brake, that whole nine yards. It's all fun. I mean, you're going to have a good time, have a good time. So collectibles college. You got you, you got a vintage bike. Is that what described that? So it's a 1971. Sprint is getting rebuilt right now, so I know how to ride them and how to make them do fun things. I can't fix them. Tell everybody what that really is that tell them about the bike. It's a Harley Davidson. It was built to compete with dirt bikes here in the United States. So it's a Harley Davidson dirt bike, right? It's a three 50 I'm at 71, 1971, right. That's a good year maybe. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, so it's a fun bike. Yeah. It's a good bike. It's a lot of fun. Um, you know, I teach for Honda Harley Davidson, right? Suzuki, Yamaha. No, uh, KTM BMW. So it's, uh, I, I enjoy, I enjoy motorcycles. I enjoy the freedom of being on a bike, right. To me, it's a lot like golf, uh, except for I'm way better. I'm curious. Well, here's the deal when you're out playing golf, you really can't think about anything else. That's probably really, if you're playing and you're focused on what you're doing, right. You're thinking about the game, right? Okay. This I'm 125 yards out. What did I, am I going to use? What club am I going to use? How do I hit it on my hands? Right? Is there, so you think about all of that and it shuts everything else out when you're on a motorcycle, you're riding. And then you get going and sometimes at the speed limit, sometimes not. And you're going full exclosure and next thing you know, the wind's in your face, your hair. Well, you used to have there. I couldn't feel any of it because I had a helmet on. Yeah. But it's like, You just, you don't have a stereo on my motorcycle. Right? Cause I want to hear the bike. I want to hear the engine. Right. And then you start, I start doing little drills that I do at speed, little drills that I do when I'm going slow. It's more difficult to ride a motorcycle slow than it is to write it fast. Right. So, or handling, picking lines in the corners, understanding a weight shift. So when you're on your bike and you're thinking about everything that's transpiring, while you're riding, it makes it real hard to think about anything else. Isn't there a certain like limitation depending on the bike where you can get into what they call it. Speed wobble though. Isn't there like speed wobble comes when you have a deficiency in the motorcycle when the tires aren't right. When the frame isn't right. When your engine isn't balanced, uh, when your gearing isn't correct. When you're going too fast in certain direction. Like if you, if you're not familiar with your motorcycle, a speed wobble comes when the handlebars vibrate left and right, or up and down, and most people will grab a break. That's the worst thing you can do. Just take off MGF the throttle. Now back what? 10 years ago? 10 years ago. Maybe it was eight years ago. Father's day. I was riding from, uh, Colorado Springs up to Fort Collins. See my kids when they were up there and my son was up there. And, uh, um, when I was heading up, I was beautiful day it's father's day. Everything's cool. And as I'm going off the road, a guy in a van from Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Wisconsin. Trans versus six lines for like four lanes of traffic stops and then goes the other two lanes over. So it's like, what anything? He, he just nicked my front tire. Didn't really hit it anyway, back I was writing and then all of a sudden he did something to the alignment and I got a speed wobble. And then I just, you know, you release and let the bike come slow, but it was so. So much damage was done with just that bump. The state trooper said I was lucky that it didn't just crumble at the time. And of course I had my full gear. Right. I had on motorcycle boots, a motorcycle, insulated riding jeans. I had my jacket on. I had all my equipment, helmet, gloves, everything. Right. So when I hit the ground, Um, I did what I teach people to do and how to get in a position and get to the side of the road. So you don't get run over. You said, well, you're going to get in right fortunate for me. There was a van for Irvine, California of college kids. That we're doing something in Denver that we're going back to, uh, we're going up to Wyoming and then over to California. Right. But, um, they saw the whole thing. They, two of them got out here. Are you okay? At that point? I was, it was cause I just got a brand new paint job on my bike. So, and I, you know, by the time I realized what was going on, you're alive, but you're worried about a paint job. Okay. I got you. I'm with you, I'm with you. So, and it messed up my helmet. So anyway, helmets are expensive to get a good helmet, tour skulls. So I get a new house getting a home. So anyway, the van takes off after the other guy that hit me and they catch him, the cops get them. I, you know, I carry full insurance on my bike. Right. So I got my bike re redone. It was never the same. Just never ran. Like it's a never ran like it like, like random before. So is it the frame or what do I mean, it's the frame engine, maybe to me it's just the spirit of the bike. I don't know. I've never, I've never felt comfortable on a bike. I couldn't relate to or feel right. Like my old shovel head, I felt that my old knucklehead, I missed that bike. I sold that it should never get rid of it, but you do what you do and you move on. Right. But, uh, yeah. So I still have, have that bike cause I bought it. When I got back from Iraq, I took my combat bonus and ordered a bike when I was in country through our Davidson. Right. So it was CVO rope, a rope King that, you know, no one had ever been on it. I ordered it. Jumped on that bad boy rode it from Pennsylvania back to Colorado. That's a ride. Yep. And then got a call. Hey, uh, mr. where are you? Oh, home being Colorado. Yeah. Well, you know, and then some other things came up and said, you weren't really supposed to take that out of this. We're supposed to ship it back to Colorado for you. Anyway, things happen. They got home. Yeah. So, yeah, and I think the first year I had that bike and put 43, 44,000 miles on it, and one year on a bike and one year you were those besides eating and pissing and shitting then. Cause that's a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Well, cause well think of it this way. I would go from Colorado Springs to Denver every day. During the week, because I was teaching class and the days that I wasn't, I was riding from Colorado Springs to El Paso, Texas spending time with friends there. And then of course I had my friends in Arizona and then I had to go to San Diego and all my friends in San Diego had bikes. So I'd ride out there. I mean, there's something about a motorcycle that is just freeing. No, no matter what was going on in my personal life, right. As long as I could get on my bike and ride, everything was good. You know, for, for a long time, I thought I was, I wanted to be the cool guy and had some hot chick on the back of the bike with me. And for a while, that was like really cool. And it still is, but what's even cooler is being with somebody who likes to ride. No. Cause part of variety is enjoying the fellowship of riding, right? Unless you ride, you don't know what writing is. Right. You know, it's like, unless you're a good golfer, you don't really, you don't really know you don't appreciate it. You're watching the good fight and some people are going that's boring. And you realize you don't know what they're looking at because there's a lot going on. And same thing. Yeah. It's like we talked before the best thing that ever happened at UFC. It's coven because there's no audience that's right. You don't hear people bullying when guys are trying to pull different, different mounts and do different things. So I was listening to, I dunno, if it was a steep EY or maybe John Jones, it might've been John Jones and I interviewed, they were talking about that. Like the difference of people not being there, whatever it might've been both of them actually. And they said, So I think from our perspective, it's your perspective because you're watching as. The audience itself and you get ticked off because people don't know what they're watching and they, and they boo. Right. But for the fighters, I don't think it changes much cause they don't, they don't let me know what's going on. They're just concentrated on the phone. That's Lisa, they were saying, so I don't know. I get what you're saying. I get it. And it gets a little irritating. We watched the last fight between, uh, Steve Bay and, and, um, The guy that about it. They were fighting, they were fighting hard, you know, and they just, sometimes they just don't understand what's going on. And so I get that part of it, but I gotta be honest. It's like I do miss seen that. You know, like the MGM filled to the grim and you know, I mean, I missed that too. I think that'll change, you know, once we get a vaccinate vaccine or whatever, I think it'll change, but hopefully people will have had more time to research what they're watching. It's not all about somebody knocking another guy out. If you want to watch that, watch boxing. You know what? That's a whole nother, that's a whole nother story though. There's a reason why boxing isn't as popular as it used to be. Right. And that's because of, excuse me, all the, um, how do I say this and be politically correct? I can't, because of all the corruption in boxing, right? You see a guy kick another guy's ass for eight rounds, and then the guy who was getting beat up wins, how does that work? Yeah, well, they used to have that same, right. I better knock them out because I can't leave it to the judges. Yeah. You can't leave it to the judges, know whatever happened with the fairness and all who knows, but then again, there's a lot of money in the fight game. And back, you know, back in the day. And even now, I mean, some of these guys, because when you're shaking your head, like, well, look at UFC, there's been guys that have won and you're looking at the criteria or they go to a certain state where they really don't have a lot of UFC. Correct. And they have the fight and you catch one of the judges who's on his phone. Looking up stuff on his phone about the fight, right? Well, that should tell you that he's not a qualified judge to be doing UFC or any kind of MMA or. Or, or, uh, or, or combative sport like that. And, and you're right, because a lot of, if you don't know what's going on, a lot of times that might look like the other guy is winning, but he's actually going to get ready to lose, you know, so yeah, I see what you're saying. So, you know, I don't, it's a hard job being a judge and I respect all those guys, same as a referee or an umpire right analysis. It's a hard thing, but here's the deal, you know, you, you. Are effectively ruining or enhancing somebody's life, but the decision you make their livelihood, it's their livelihood. They're in there for football right? Last year when the, uh, The new Orleans saints got ripped off, or the dad was getting the catch, getting ready to catch the ball. And the DB knocked him down. There was no call, no, no call. But the funny thing was, it happened to the same team two years in a row. Yeah. So what do you do? Oh, we're going to Institute this now. It would be really cool. You just made me think of something. So with like the UFC or would it be really good? Is. If it goes to decision, you should have competent enough judges that, I mean, you don't even have to identify them by name, but they should be able to like articulate to the audience. Like after the fact it'd be like a newspaper article or something, their breakdown of the fight and why each one of them, because it does. Oh, I know, but let me just finish. Let me just finish. And then you can tear it apart, tear it apart after, because it would do two things. One, it would show their mindset in the decision they made. And two, it would help to educate the audience and what they were seeing as compared to what the audience thought they were watching. I would disagree with that and agree with it. Okay. If two things didn't happen. Okay. One is judges have enough trouble now, right? Just judging the fight. If you add a whole nother level. Of proficiency. Right? I think it'll, it'll the fights will take longer to judge you're adding time. I mean, I guess I'm, I didn't say it. Right. So they do everything like there's like you're doing right now, but hopefully we're a little bit pickier about who we have judging. So they're able, after the fight in general, to describe what they saw. And if there certain points that are particularly, um, important during the fight, you know, that they can say yet, you, you thought you, you know, you saw this, this is what I saw. And if you've got three judges and they're all describing the same thing, it gives some validity to the entire process. It's just like, you can't talk to referees after a game. Right. I think that would, I think that would open up a can of, of. Bad blood because no matter, no matter what you look at our politicians, no matter what a judge says, you can post we're going to stay away from that as much as possible. I said, look at the politics, don't talk about it. But I think it gives people too much of a chance to interpret. Right. You know? So I think they give their scores, you know, they, and then walk away. And then you judge them after the, after the fact on each one, because no matter what they say, it can be taken out of context, it can be changed. It could be, there's a thousand different things that can happen with it. And I guess the reality, and that's the problem. It's probably a better business decision not to do that because it's the conflict in the disruption that probably gets everybody paid more money anyway, for the next fight. So, yeah, that's just business. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what it is. It's business. Apparently don't understand that it's a business, you know, or like in boxing, boxing's not all boxers stay with the same, bro. No, you are a manager. You could, you could be sold off to another manager or somebody else could come in and say, Hey, well, 10 bucks to you're frightened for this guy. Another promoter comes in and goes, Hey. I'm going to offer 10 bucks to this, or are you, you know, what, what, what do you think? So I don't know. Things change. I've been in a fight community a long time, and I'm telling you, I'm seeing stuff now. I've never seen. And the fighters aren't getting that much more money out of it. Yeah. So you got more corporate where the big part of it is taking the money. What do you think is going on? I don't know if I'd necessarily say it's corporate. I would, I would say it's um, well, the thing with UFC is corporate, right? That's without a doubt, right? Each one of these commissions has their fingers in the pie. You know, it's like to kid last night, a Loma versus Lopez, right. That was a great fight. And lo and Loma loss, Lopez, Lopez. Right. But man, this kid looked. Polished. That's how fight should be. Right. You know, if a guy's beating the snot of another guy, that's the guy who should win. Right. Because he's doing his job. Right. So, you know, no video games, but somebody, but, and you get better the video games. Yeah. You know, one thing I saw last night that, uh, essentially that picture of the fire from, from our house. Right? Yeah. And one thing I realized, like everybody, the people I talked to today and everything. It reminds me that, um, like we've been saying forever, this is not political. This is a matter of fact that most people really are good. And when something terrible like that fire, which is not, it's just a natural event, right. You, can't not going to blame anybody, even if it was manmade, it was probably an accident. So it's not like, Oh, it's this group or that group nature. It's taking its course right now. Right. And there's 1400 firefighters up there with hearts of gold. And, you know, just like a lungs iron, I don't know what these guys are tough fighting that thing. We were watching it from. We can actually see it from our house. It was coming over the foothills, that glow and I thought. Oh, my God and everybody, I talked to today talking about that situation and how those firefighters, we couldn't see the firefighters. We could see the fire. Right. But we knew what they were doing because after about an hour and a half, you could see that thing just extinguished. They were like, They're taking this thing apart piece by piece. It's like, it's like a really good fight, you know? And you say technique, it's not like who's cause that fire is stronger than all those guys. Yeah. They've got technique and they're taking that thing apart and they're just, they're destroying it right. Little by little. And we were actually on the balcony cheering and we're I was talking to people today about that and they had the same effect and it reminded me that even something so terrible like that. Right. The brick. It reminds, everybody kind of brings them together, like, forget about all this other crap. Okay. We're all here. And we have a, we have a common enemy now that actually is not a person. It's a thing. And this is what we're fighting. This is what you got to help each other work. You know? I mean, just all the volunteers and everything. I was going to say, it gives you a warm feeling. That's not the right term since fire or whatever, but yeah. Yeah. It makes you feel good about just humanity in general, you know? Yeah. That's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. But it was scary seeing that thing. Cause if it got into town, I mean, Oh my gosh, that would have been not good, but there's here's mitigation is the key to preventing major forest fires. Agreed. Too much beetle kill up to begin with. Yeah. Which we are, but we don't have forests. You don't have forestry. No forestry industry, you don't have the forest industry here anymore. Right? So, and they kept them picking up that there were, there were companies that wanted to go in and take all that beetle kill out because that was big. I mean, they were using it in homes and they made it so difficult to do that, that it's like, they're, we're cleaning up our forest basically for free because we're picking that dead wood and they made it so difficult to do. Had they let them, everybody's got this idea about, Oh, well, we've got to leave it to nature. It's not nature anymore. We all live up there. It's not like it was a hundred years ago or a thousand years ago. It's like, it's sorry. It's kind of like a, a farm. You have to manage it. You know, and I agree with you a hundred percent. I agree that these things wouldn't happen. If they would, like you say plan a little bit ahead of time. Actually it could've made money. Instead of all the money we're spending, fighting the thought, getting made money, and these guys putting their lives on the line to fight it, wouldn't have to necessarily be doing that as often if we just took care of it ahead of time. But what do we know? Right. Yeah. You know, it is what it is. Everything we know everything. That's. The other thing is there. I'll ask you this first bit that you, I see a common theme here. Are there besides the bikes, besides the knives. Is there anything else that you like to collect besides Saki that you and I never can seem to just collect? Cause we ended up drinking it maybe. Yeah. I mean, you know, good wine. I'd like to start collecting watches again. I mean, yeah. You know, all this stuff here, by the way. Yeah, no, I'll I'll Friday. Okay. Okay. Okay. That sounds good. Yeah. That's what we'll where we're in. Omega is Friday. We're jumping, we're jumping around a little bit. I got the other day we're talking. So we're still working on, well, we have her in Omega is we're still working on the omegas. I realized the other day when I was watching equalizer too, and I don't care. If you don't like the equalizer movies, then you, you suck. Okay. So, wow. I'm telling you. They're great because especially if you have a little bit of that sick humor, right? Like the movie has been out for a little while now I recommend anybody like that. Guys get their ass beat. You should watch this movie. Oh, absolutely. I agree with that. I didn't realize though that until, uh, Until the number two, that it's the same watch as Suunto watch that I have is the watch that he wears it. He always hits the stop watch to see how long it takes him to kick, kick everybody's ass. Right. So, um, uh, I thought that was so cool to think. I couldn't figure out his, his screen is like blue. I actually looked it up and real and found out that. It's the same watch it's black and white, like mine or beige or whatever that is and the color. And then they digitally enhanced it, uh, on the film to make it look blue. So it's easier for people to see. So that, that makes sense. Yeah, but that, I mean, if you haven't seen them, we're going to talk about just one scene that I was, I fell off the couch. I was laughing so hard to show you. Like, I am a little sick, but, um, He picks up that gal who was assaulted. Right. We'll be kind about that. And he goes back up in the C four or five guys are in the room and he says, your card's no good. And they're smart ass, rich kids or whatever. Right. That were very mean to this young woman. And, uh, he, you know, basically now set it up. He has their card because he's a Lyft driver. Correct. He's a Lyft driver. I see your Lyft drivers. Cause you never know who you're going to meet. Number one. Hopefully not exactly, but anyway, lets you watch the whole thing, but the couple of scenes in there where he. Gives them a chance to apologize, even though they're still going to get punished and they think that's hilarious and they're going to beat his ass or whatever. And they locked the door and of course he's set in a stopwatch and the fight begins and he basically just beats the crap out of all of them. And at the end, the kid that was supposed to pay him, I just thought this was hilarious. He says, okay, what hand are you? You know, you left her right hand and he grabs the hand. That is. And he says now, remember when I leave here tonight, five stars, I better get five stars, you know, on, um, on my survey, you know, the Lyft drivers get and Uber and all that. He goes, okay, five stars, five stars. And then something about, do you remember star Trek? Because the way he was holding his hand, it looked like, uh, uh, Leonard anymore. Spark Spock. Yeah, because that's how his handed up looking. And I just. Yeah, I was rolling and my wife looks at me sometimes going, why do you find that? So funny. So you didn't find that you didn't think that was funny? That was hilarious because they deserved it. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Deserved it. Yeah. Hey, he's one guy got to, got to give credit where credit is due. I think it was a couple years, maybe more than a couple of years ago. He was a. Taking a tour at some, I think it was a vet hospital. I don't know. I don't know, remember where, and they had a lot of the vets, like they weren't actually in the hospital, they had them in some, um, and a hallway or something. They didn't have enough room for all of them. Right. And he goes, what's going on here? Cause we're just out of room right now. We just, we don't have the facilities for it. He goes, well, how much does one of those costs or something? He goes, Oh, that's like $5 million. And on the spot he wrote a check for like $5 million. So they could build that, put those vets in there. So he gets some kudos for that big term. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. But I just, yeah, that, if you haven't seen that movie and you'd like that kind of really. I don't know if it's really even sick humor. It's just funny. I highly recommend you take a look at it, plus check out the walk because anybody who's cool is to watch like this, Jesse I'm just so when you get me a watch like that. Yeah. Well these are only 200 bucks, not like the $20,000 homemakers. We can maybe swing that, right? That's not even a bottle of sock. That's true. We have. So when you drink good, it's it's true. I think the theme I'm hearing here, the conversation, and we went all over the place tonight is we collect things because it reminds us. Of things that happened in our past, right? It's it reminds us of our life. It's things that we share with other people, everything that we talked about tonight, it's something that, yeah, I bought this or I bought that, or I collect these, but you know, the knives, you're sharing it with your buddy up the mountains, right? Your motorcycles, do you want to be with somebody else that understands what's going on? Even you can't work on them, but you're going to have a conversation with a mechanic, right? Talking about this. And it's things that you, and that's part of enjoying what you collect and. What it really comes down to is we're all collecting, you know, memories because in the end, maybe that's what we take. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's it, that's it, you know, like Burgess, Meredith and grumpy old men, you know, in the end, it's your experiences. And I think that's, these are these things that we collect are just reminders of those experiences. And I think that's pretty cool. Some more than others obviously, but you know, just, it's all good. It's all good. You can't judge your memory. All you can. Judge is. How much trouble you got into doing it. Right. Just so everybody knows. Yeah, of course. We're gonna, we can't, we can't help ourselves. We're always going to end up talking a little bit about, you know, current events and things like that because yeah. Like, like we say, we know everything, so why not at least share that knowledge with everybody. Right. But, but more so there's things in life that happened to all of us. Um, hopefully entertaining and a little bit educational for all of us together. Not just us talking about it, but you sharing with us like, you know, similar experiences, you know, you know how to get ahold of us. Um, yeah, I think that's probably what we need a little bit more of and it probably a little more relaxing and we need a break. We need a break from everything else that's going on. So where did that, we're going to the next couple of weeks. We're going to have some. Um, I haven't told you yet. I'll tell you off here because I wanna announce them too. We're actually got the date set, but some people on with some really good stories, um, some just, you know, used to every day, civilian type life and, uh, not so much every day law enforcement slash military kind of stories that I think we'll all enjoy quite a bit. Um, and a couple of comedians too. Anyway. I don't know if they're gonna be as funny as us, but we gotta give him a chance. We have to give him a chance. Listen, you know, it takes time. Right. You know what I mean? They're not, they haven't been around as long as this. I mean, they're not seasoned. No, they're not seasoned. And uh, so anyway, so what I'm going to do, I'm going to go sharpen some knives and find some soggy or somewhere. You know what? I put that other one in the refrigerator, so that's not helping me. Well, you know where I'm at by the time you get here, though, I can pretty much guarantee it's going to be I'm sure. I'll talk to you before I see you Friday, right? That's right. Okay. Everybody else. I hope you have some nice collections. Uh, if they include good stories, let us know. Yeah. Let us know. Yeah. That's what it's all about. Just all of us. So every have a good one and we'll talk to you, uh, probably less than a week, the way things are going. So we're trying to catch that up here. We actually just been out, you know, trying to make enough money to pay uncle Sam for all these inflation things. We're going to have to deal with this. Yes, sir. So we had to work doubly hard anyway. All right, everybody have a good night. Let's roll out of here, Jesse. Let's roll buddy. All right. Talk to you. Michigan plate. We'll be back soon. We will never change our tune. We thank you for your loyal support. So please subscribe and share our port sound off. Wound to sound off three, four sound off wound two, three, four. Let's roll.